thing i'd say to echo what general hayden said is, sitting at the threat table at both the cia and the fbi, i'm surprised how much americans think about past wars. you know, historians always say the past doesn't dictate the future. i saw threats with 10 nieces and nephews in cartels, in gangs, latin american gangs that came out of californian prisons that are now on the east coast. we've got more than 10,000 people dying in this country every year from prescription medical fraud, et cetera. we don't seem to worry about this. i live in old town alexandria and there's parts of that town i can't walk into, but people say, you know, "terrorism i'm concerned about, i'm a little worried about egypt." i don't quite -- the future always seems uncertain. but it's -- i think it will turn out okay. [laughter] tom gjelten: jim zogby, one of the important points from marshall's data was that this idea that the wars in iraq and afghanistan worsened american relations with the muslim world. now this, in spite of the fact that we have for the first time in history a president with a partial muslim herita